Currently, only a super user can create a segment that is visible to all users but I think it makes sense to let admins select this as well as an admin can also create users etc. The other two options (displayed for all websites and archive yes/no) should still be only configurable for a super user.
as an admin can also create users
actually no: to create users you must be Super User...
let admins select this as well as an admin can also create users
The reason it was not done is that it would let any
admin user impact the features of all
view users. So imagine if you are a web agency and have 10 clients in your Piwik server. These users are set as
admin so they can add their own users etc. if one of those 10 admins could also share segments with all view users, then one of the 10 clients could share data with other 9 clients (and any
view users they created) without realising. Also those 9 admin users don't care about the segment from this other
This is maybe a wider issue with Piwik permissions that we could think about at some point. See also the popular #4314
Don't see it like this. And users actually ask for it especially when in a cloud. You can't give everyone super user permission just for this. I don't think there are always so many admins that create so many different segments. Maybe it is then rather an issue to let admins and super users select whether they want to share it with other users or not.
I got a bit confused by the issue title which mentions "all users" but IMO it's not possible to let an
admin user impact
all users. So maybe the following works?
and displayed for ALL WEBSITES
This segment is visible to: ALL USERS
This segment is visible to: USERS VIEWING THIS WEBSITE.
is 3. what you had in mind?
yep, 3 is what I had in mind. With all users system wide wouldn't make any sense but with all users having access to that website
Really need this feature please !
We won't be working on it soon, so pull request welcome!
@mattab After reading many issues concerning permissions i think the permission / user manager implementation has to be refactored. We should have X roles implemented for each site. Roles could be powered by the core and plugins using the permissions management API. Maybe open a new issue to discuss about this ?
we don't want to refactor or introduce more complex permission system in this particular issue here (this may be a good idea, but not the scope of this "simple" issue). So we still want to allow admin to create segments visible to all users having access to a website, and this could be implemented without considering the whole refactor
I don't get how this can be such an issue that you haven't sorted it out in 7 years!?
Creating segments and share them with others is crucial for slightly larger organizations (like ours).
It's not feasible to make everyone that might want to make a complex segment available for others to be Super user. I can buy that you need to be an admin to be able to add options for other users (ofc within the same site), but not Super User.
A Super User should be someone that more or less configures the ins and outs of the application on a broader scope, not for day-to-day usage of the application (which creating segments are).
It's really concerning for us to read all the "we won't..." and "do a pull request" answers here. We're a business that have to focus on our own services, which is why we opted for a ready-made service like Matomo to begin with.